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DK 86 B 3

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ΟΛΥΜΠΙΟΝΙΚΩΝ ΑΝΑΓΡΑΦΗ.

PLUT. Num. 1 τοὺς μὲν οὐν χρόνους ἐξακριβῶσαι χαλεπόν ἐστι καὶ μάλιστα τοὺς ἐκ τῶν Ὀλυμπιονικῶν ἀναγομένους, ὧν τὴν ἀναγραφὴν ὀψέ φασιν Ἱππίαν ἐκδοῦναι τὸν Ἠλεῖον ἀπ’ οὐδενὸς ὁρμώμενον ἀναγκαίου πρὸς πίστιν.

Chronology, however, is hard to fix, and especially that which is based upon the names of victors in the Olympic games, the list of which is said to have been published at a late period by Hippias of Elis, who had no fully authoritative basis for his work.

Bernadotte Perrin · Plutarch, Lives, Loeb Classical Library (1914)
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Published passage: Plutarch, Numa 1.4; Loeb Lives I

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DK 86 B 4

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Θαργηλία ἡ Μιλησία, ἥτις καὶ τεσσαρεσκαίδεκα ἀνδράσιν ἐγαμήθη οὖσα καὶ τὸ εἶδος πάνυ καλὴ καὶ σοφή, ὥς φησιν Ἱ. ὁ σοφιστὴς ἐν τῶι ἐπιγραφομένωι Συναγωγή.

There was, for instance, Thargelia the Milesian, who was married to fourteen different husbands, so very beautiful and accomplished was she, as Hippias the Sophist says, in his book which is entitled Synagoge.

C. D. Yonge · The Deipnosophists, or Banquet of the Learned, of Athenæus, volume 3 (London: Henry G. Bohn, 1854)
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ΣΥΝΑΓΟΓΗ.

ATHEN. XIII 608 F ἐπὶ κάλλει δὲ . . . διαβόητοι γεγόνασι γυναῖκες Θαργηλία ἡ Μιλησία, ἥτις καὶ τεσσαρεσκαίδεκα ἀνδράσιν ἐγαμήθη οὖσα καὶ τὸ εἶδος πάνυ καλὴ καὶ σοφή, ὥς φησιν Ἱ. ὁ σοφιστὴς ἐν τῶι ἐπιγραφομένωι Συναγωγή. HESYCH. Θαργηλία· ἔστιν ἡ Θαργηλία Μιλησία μὲν τὸ γένος, εὐπρεπὴς δὲ τὴν ὄψιν καὶ τἆλλα σοφή, ὥστε στρατηγεῖν πόλεις καὶ δυνάστας. διὸ καὶ πλείστοις ἐγήματο τῶν διασημοτάτων.

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DK 86 B 6

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CLEM. Strom. VI 15 (II 434, 19 St.) φέρε ἄντικρυς μαρτυροῦντα ἡμῖν Ἱππίαν τὸν σοφιστὴν τὸν Ἠλεῖον, ὃς τὸν αὐτὸν περὶ τοῦ προκειμένου μοι σκέμματος ἧκεν λόγον, παραστησώμεθα ὧδέ πως λέγοντα· τούτων ἴσως εἴρηται τὰ μὲν Ὀρφεῖ, τὰ δὲ Μουσαίωι κατὰ βραχὺ ἄλλωι ἀλλαχοῦ, τὰ δὲ Ἡσιόδωι τὰ δὲ Ὁμήρωι, τὰ δὲ τοῖς ἄλλοις τῶν ποιητῶν, τὰ δὲ ἐν συγγραφαῖς τὰ μὲν Ἕλλησι τὰ δὲ βαρβάροις. ἐγὼ δὲ ἐκ πάντων τούτων τὰ μέγιστα καὶ ὁμόφυλα συνθεὶς τοῦτον καινὸν καὶ πολυειδῆ τὸν λόγον ποιήσομαι.

allow us to adduce the express testimony of Hippias, the sophist of Elea, who discourses on the point in hand, and speaks thus: “Of these things some perchance are said by Orpheus, some briefly by Musæus; some in one place, others in other places; some by Hesiod, some by Homer, some by the rest of the poets; and some in prose compositions, some by Greeks, some by Barbarians. And I from all these, placing together the things of most importance and of kindred character, will make the present discourse new and varied.”

William Wilson · Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II (1885)
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DK 86 B 7

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Ἀριστοτέλης δὲ καὶ Ἱππίας φασὶν αὐτὸν καὶ τοῖς ἀψύχοις μεταδιδόναι ψυχῆς, τεκμαιρόμενον ἐκ τῆς λίθου τῆς μαγνήτιδος καὶ τοῦ ἠλέκτρου.

But Aristotle and Hippias say that he attributed souls also to lifeless things, forming his conjecture from the nature of the magnet, and of amber.

Charles Duke Yonge · The Lives and Opinions of Eminent Philosophers (1853), Diogenes Laertius I.24, p. 15
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R. D. Hicks, Diogenes Laertius: Lives of Eminent Philosophers, vol. I (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: Heinemann, 1925), I 24, Greek p. 24; Perseus transcription tlg 0004.tlg 001.perseus-grc 2
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Complete Diogenes Laertius sentence. “He” refers to Thales in the surrounding biography

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Compared against the identified Hicks 1925 Greek, not merely the presocratici.it extract. Hicks prints the partitive singular ψυχῆς in place of the current ψυχάς. This agrees with the unchanged English statement that inanimate things partake of soul.

R. D. Hicks, Diogenes Laertius: Lives of Eminent Philosophers, vol. I (Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press; London: Heinemann, 1925), I 24, Greek p. 24; Perseus transcription tlg 0004.tlg 001.perseus-grc 2 View original source ↗

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DK 86 B 11

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PLUT. Lyc. 23 αὐτὸν δὲ τὸν Λυκοῦργον Ἱ. μὲν ὁ σοφιστὴς πολεμικώτατόν φησι γενέσθαι καὶ πολλῶν ἔμπειρον στρατηγιῶν.

Hippias the Sophist says that Lycurgus himself was very well versed in war and took part in many campaigns.

Bernadotte Perrin · Plutarch, Lives, Loeb Classical Library (1914)
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DK 86 B 12TEXTUAL VARIANTS · SEE NOTES

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μετὰ δὲ τοῦτον Μάμερκος ὁ Στησιχόρου τοῦ ποιητοῦ ἀδελφὸς ὡς ἐφαψάμενος τῆς περὶ γεωμετρίας σπουδῆς μνημονεύεται καὶ Ἱ. ὁ Ἠλεῖος ἱστόρησεν ὡς ἐπὶ γεωμετρίαι δόξαν αὐτοῦ λαβόντος.

After him, Ameristus [or Mamercus], brother of the poet Stesichorus, is mentioned as celebrated for his zeal in the study of geometry; and Hippias of Elis has reported that he gained some reputation for his geometry.

George Johnston Allman; non-mathematical translations supervised by John F. Davies · Greek Geometry from Thales to Euclid (Dublin: Hodges, Figgis & Co.; London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1889), p. 3, translating Proclus, In Euclidem p. 65.11 Friedlein
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PROCL. in Eucl. p. 65, 11 Friedl. [s. oben I 28, 38] μετὰ δὲ τοῦτον [Thales] Μάμερκος ὁ Στησιχόρου τοῦ ποιητοῦ ἀδελφὸς ὡς ἐφαψάμενος τῆς περὶ γεωμετρίας σπουδῆς μνημονεύεται καὶ Ἱ. ὁ Ἠλεῖος ἱστόρησεν ὡς ἐπὶ γεωμετρίαι δόξαν αὐτοῦ λαβόντος.

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  • English · George Johnston Allman; non-mathematical translations supervised by John F. Davies. Greek Geometry from Thales to Euclid (Dublin: Hodges, Figgis & Co.; London: Longmans, Green & Co., 1889), p. 3, translating Proclus, In Euclidem p. 65.11 Friedlein. Default reading. The translation follows a different historical text; see the source notes. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

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DK 86 B 16

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δύο εἶναι φθόνους· τὸν μὲν δίκαιον, ὅταν τις τοῖς κακοῖς φθονῆι τιμωμένοις, τὸν δὲ ἄδικον, ὅταν τοῖς ἀγαθοῖς. καὶ διπλᾶ τῶν ἄλλων οἱ φθονεροὶ κακοῦνται· οὐ γὰρ μόνον τοῖς ἰδίοις κακοῖς ἄχθονται ὥσπερ ἐκεῖνοι, ἀλλὰ καὶ τοῖς ἀλλοτρίοις ἀγαθοῖς.

Es gibt zwei Arten von Neid: den guten, der sich gegen die Ehrung Unwürdiger wendet, und den bösen, der gegen Würdige gerichtet ist. Und auch die Strafe der Neidischen ist eine doppelte, denn sie leiden nicht nur unter ihrer eigenen Zurücksetzung, sondern auch unter den Vorzügen der Anderen

German · Heinrich Gomperz · Sophistik und Rhetorik (Leipzig and Berlin: B. G. Teubner, 1912)
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Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker (1922). Digital text: Open Greek and Latin, First1KGreek
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The work-title “On Slander” includes an editorial restoration in the Greek

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STOB. III 38, 32 Πλουτάρχου ἐκ τοῦ 〈Περὶ τοῦ〉 διαβάλλειν. Ἱ. λέγει δύο εἶναι φθόνους· τὸν μὲν δίκαιον, ὅταν τις τοῖς κακοῖς φθονῆι τιμωμένοις, τὸν δὲ ἄδικον, ὅταν τοῖς ἀγαθοῖς. καὶ διπλᾶ τῶν ἄλλων οἱ φθονεροὶ κακοῦνται· οὐ γὰρ μόνον τοῖς ἰδίοις κακοῖς ἄχθονται ὥσπερ ἐκεῖνοι, ἀλλὰ καὶ τοῖς ἀλλοτρίοις ἀγαθοῖς.’

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German · Heinrich Gomperz · Sophistik und Rhetorik (Leipzig and Berlin: B. G. Teubner, 1912) Published translation ↗

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  • German · Heinrich Gomperz. Sophistik und Rhetorik (Leipzig and Berlin: B. G. Teubner, 1912). Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

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DK 86 B 17

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δεινόν ἐστιν ἡ διαβολία, οὕτως ὀνομάζων, ὅτι οὐδὲ τιμωρία τις κατ’ αὐτῶν γέγραπται ἐν τοῖς νόμοις ὥσπερ τῶν κλεπτῶν· καίτοι ἄριστον ὂν κτῆμα τὴν φιλίαν κλέπτουσιν, ὥστε ἡ ὕβρις κακοῦργος οὖσα δικαιοτέρα ἐστὶ τῆς διαβολῆς διὰ τὸ μὴ ἀφανὴς εἶναι.

Etwas Arges ist die Verleumdung, denn es steht nicht einmal eine gesetzliche Strafe auf ihr, wie auf dem Diebstahl, und doch stiehlt sie das wertvollste Besitztum, die Freundschaft. So daß auch die Mißhandlung, so gewalttätig sie ist, doch besser ist als die Verleumdung. Denn wenigstens bleibt sie nicht verborgen.

German · Heinrich Gomperz · Sophistik und Rhetorik (Leipzig and Berlin: B. G. Teubner, 1912)
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    Anthology · 42, 10

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— — 42, 10 Πλουτάρχου ἐκ τοῦ 〈Περὶ τοῦ〉 διαβάλλειν. Ἱ. φησίν, ὅτι δεινόν ἐστιν ἡ διαβολία, οὕτως ὀνομάζων, ὅτι οὐδὲ τιμωρία τις κατ’ αὐτῶν γέγραπται ἐν τοῖς νόμοις ὥσπερ τῶν κλεπτῶν· καίτοι ἄριστον ὂν κτῆμα τὴν φιλίαν κλέπτουσιν, ὥστε ἡ ὕβρις κακοῦργος οὖσα δικαιοτέρα ἐστὶ τῆς διαβολῆς διὰ τὸ μὴ ἀφανὴς εἶναι.

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DK 86 B 21

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Νικομήδης μὲν γὰρ ἐκ τῶν κογχοειδῶν γραμμῶν, ὧν καὶ τὴν γένεσιν καὶ τὴν τάξιν καὶ τὰ συμπτώματα παραδέδωκεν, αὐτὸς εὑρετὴς ὢν τῆς ἰδιότητος αὐτῶν πᾶσαν εὐθύγραμμον γωνίαν ἐτριχοτόμησεν. ἕτεροι δὲ ἐκ τῶν Ἱππίου καὶ Νικομήδους τετραγωνιζουσῶν πεποιήκασι τὸ αὐτὸ μικταῖς καὶ οὗτοι χρησάμενοι γραμμαῖς ταῖς τετραγωνιζούσαις.

Nicomedes trisected every rectilineal angle by means of the conchoidal lines, the inventor of whose particular nature he is, and the origin, construction, and properties of which he has explained. Others have solved the same problem by means of the quadratrices of Hippias and Nicomedes, making use of the mixed lines which are called quadratrices

George Johnston Allman; non-mathematical translations supervised by John F. Davies · Greek Geometry from Thales to Euclid (1889), p. 92, translating Proclus, In Euclidem p. 272.3 Friedlein
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PROCL. in Eucl. p. 272, 3 Friedl. Νικομήδης μὲν γὰρ ἐκ τῶν κογχοειδῶν γραμμῶν, ὧν καὶ τὴν γένεσιν καὶ τὴν τάξιν καὶ τὰ συμπτώματα παραδέδωκεν, αὐτὸς εὑρετὴς ὢν τῆς ἰδιότητος αὐτῶν πᾶσαν εὐθύγραμμον γωνίαν ἐτριχοτόμησεν. ἕτεροι δὲ ἐκ τῶν Ἱππίου καὶ Νικομήδους τετραγωνιζουσῶν πεποιήκασι τὸ αὐτὸ μικταῖς καὶ οὗτοι χρησάμενοι γραμμαῖς ταῖς τετραγωνιζούσαις.

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  • English · George Johnston Allman; non-mathematical translations supervised by John F. Davies. Greek Geometry from Thales to Euclid (1889), p. 92, translating Proclus, In Euclidem p. 272.3 Friedlein. Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

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Diels 1922, fragment 3

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ΟΛΥΜΠΙΟΝΙΚΩΝ ΑΝΑΓΡΑΦΗ.

PLUT. Num. 1 τοὺς μὲν οὐν χρόνους ἐξακριβῶσαι χαλεπόν ἐστι καὶ μάλιστα τοὺς ἐκ τῶν Ὀλυμπιονικῶν ἀναγομένους, ὧν τὴν ἀναγραφὴν ὀψέ φασιν Ἱππίαν ἐκδοῦναι τὸν Ἠλεῖον ἀπ’ οὐδενὸς ὁρμώμενον ἀναγκαίου πρὸς πίστιν.

Chronology, however, is hard to fix, and especially that which is based upon the names of victors in the Olympic games, the list of which is said to have been published at a late period by Hippias of Elis, who had no fully authoritative basis for his work.

Bernadotte Perrin · Plutarch, Lives, Loeb Classical Library (1914)
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Diels 1922, fragment 6

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CLEM. Strom. VI 15 (II 434, 19 St.) φέρε ἄντικρυς μαρτυροῦντα ἡμῖν Ἱππίαν τὸν σοφιστὴν τὸν Ἠλεῖον, ὃς τὸν αὐτὸν περὶ τοῦ προκειμένου μοι σκέμματος ἧκεν λόγον, παραστησώμεθα ὧδέ πως λέγοντα· τούτων ἴσως εἴρηται τὰ μὲν Ὀρφεῖ, τὰ δὲ Μουσαίωι κατὰ βραχὺ ἄλλωι ἀλλαχοῦ, τὰ δὲ Ἡσιόδωι τὰ δὲ Ὁμήρωι, τὰ δὲ τοῖς ἄλλοις τῶν ποιητῶν, τὰ δὲ ἐν συγγραφαῖς τὰ μὲν Ἕλλησι τὰ δὲ βαρβάροις. ἐγὼ δὲ ἐκ πάντων τούτων τὰ μέγιστα καὶ ὁμόφυλα συνθεὶς τοῦτον καινὸν καὶ πολυειδῆ τὸν λόγον ποιήσομαι.

allow us to adduce the express testimony of Hippias, the sophist of Elea, who discourses on the point in hand, and speaks thus: “Of these things some perchance are said by Orpheus, some briefly by Musæus; some in one place, others in other places; some by Hesiod, some by Homer, some by the rest of the poets; and some in prose compositions, some by Greeks, some by Barbarians. And I from all these, placing together the things of most importance and of kindred character, will make the present discourse new and varied.”

William Wilson · Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II (1885)
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Wilson’s historical translation prints “Elea” for the source’s Elis; wording is preserved, not silently corrected

Published passage: Clement,StromataVI2.15

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English: William Wilson · Ante-Nicene Fathers, volume II (1885) Published translation ↗

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Diels 1922, fragment 11

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PLUT. Lyc. 23 αὐτὸν δὲ τὸν Λυκοῦργον Ἱ. μὲν ὁ σοφιστὴς πολεμικώτατόν φησι γενέσθαι καὶ πολλῶν ἔμπειρον στρατηγιῶν.

Hippias the Sophist says that Lycurgus himself was very well versed in war and took part in many campaigns.

Bernadotte Perrin · Plutarch, Lives, Loeb Classical Library (1914)
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Published passage: Plutarch, Lycurgus 23.1; Loeb Lives I

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