The Presocratic Reader

Hippo

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τὰ γὰρ ὕδατα πινόμενα πάντα ἐκ τῆς θαλάσσης ἐστίν· οὐ γὰρ δή που, 〈εἰ〉 τὰ φρέατα βαθύτερα ἦν, θαλασσά ἐστιν ἐξ ἧς πίνομεν· οὕτω γὰρ οὐκ 〈ἂν〉 ἐκ τῆς θαλάσσης τὸ ὕδωρ εἴη, ἀλλ’ ἄλλοθέν ποθεν. νῦν δὲ ἡ θάλασσα βαθυτέρα ἐστὶ τῶν ὑδάτων. ὅσα οὖν καθύπερθεν τῆς θαλάσσης ἐστί, πάντα ἀπ’ αὐτῆς ἐστίν.

The waters we drink are all from the sea; for if wells were deeper than the sea, then it would not, doubtless, be from the sea that we drink, for then the water would not be from the sea, but from some other source. But as it is, the sea is deeper than the waters, so all the waters that are above the sea come from it.

John Burnet · Early Greek Philosophy, second edition (London: Adam and Charles Black, 1908), p. 407
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Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (Berlin: Weidmann, 1906), p. 226; historical running original-language text, excluding the critical apparatus.
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Notes & source

Burnet prints this as the recovered quotation from Hippo in the Geneva scholia. The English covers the complete current Diels 1906 Greek, including the conditional argument about the depth of wells and the final conclusion.

The bibliographical marker “R. P. 219 b.” is excluded. All wording is Burnet’s; line wrapping alone is normalized.

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (Berlin: Weidmann, 1906), p. 226; historical running original-language text, excluding the critical apparatus. View original source ↗

English: John Burnet · Early Greek Philosophy, second edition (London: Adam and Charles Black, 1908), p. 407 Published translation ↗

Source pages: 1 · 2

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English translation: Public domain (historical edition; publication and contributor dates documented) · Licence terms ↗

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  • English · John Burnet. Early Greek Philosophy, second edition (London: Adam and Charles Black, 1908), p. 407. Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Source pages: 1 · 2

    Translation: Public domain (historical edition; publication and contributor dates documented) · Licence terms ↗

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

  • German · Hermann Diels. Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906). Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Translation: Public domain

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

Available translations: English

Ἵππωνος τόδε σῆμα, τὸν ἀθανάτοισι θεοῖσιν ἶσον ἐποίησεν Μοῖρα καταφθίμενον.

"This is the sepulchre of Hippo, whom Destiny Made, through death, equal to the immortal gods."

William Wilson · Clement of Alexandria, translated by William Wilson, Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. II (1885)
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Notes & source

The complete epitaph is translated. Clement’s and Alexander’s surrounding discussions are not reproduced with this reading

Published passage: Clement, Exhortation to the Heathen 4.55

Existing human translation retained verbatim; historical original-language passage covers the same translated quotation.

Complete epigram matches the historical 1906 text. Dossier has later references and is withheld; paired verse remains.

Supplementary context has not been verified throughout against an identified historical edition. The translated paired reading remains available.

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (Berlin: Weidmann, 1906), p. 226; historical running original-language text, excluding the critical apparatus. View original source ↗

English: William Wilson · Clement of Alexandria, translated by William Wilson, Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. II (1885). Published translation ↗

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  • English · William Wilson. Clement of Alexandria, translated by William Wilson, Ante-Nicene Fathers, vol. II (1885).. Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

Available translations: English · German

πάντων αὐτὸν ἐπὶ τῆι μνήμηι θαυμασάντων ὁ Κύνουλκος ἔφη ‘ πουλυμαθημοσύνης τῆς οὐ κενεώτερον οὐδέν ‘ *** Ἵππων ἔφη ὁ ἄθεος.

and when all were marvelling at his memory, Cynulcus said—

Your multifarious learning I do wonder at—
Though there is not a thing more vain and useless,

says Hippon the Atheist.

C. D. Yonge · Athenaeus, The Deipnosophists, translated by C. D. Yonge (1854)
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Published passage: Deipnosophists XIII.91, 610b

Existing human translation retained verbatim; historical original-language passage covers the same translated quotation.

Quoted Timon line and attribution/carrier printed under Hippon in 1906; historical lacuna kept. Removed bibliographic label.

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (Berlin: Weidmann, 1906), p. 226; historical running original-language text, excluding the critical apparatus. View original source ↗

English: C. D. Yonge · Athenaeus, The Deipnosophists, translated by C. D. Yonge (1854) Published translation ↗

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  • English · C. D. Yonge. Athenaeus, The Deipnosophists, translated by C. D. Yonge (1854). Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

  • German · Hermann Diels. Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906). Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Translation: Public domain

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

Available translations: German

longe aliud anima, aliud corpus est, quae corpore et torpente viget et caeco videt et mortuo vivit.

Ganz etwas anderes ist Leib und Seele. Denn diese regt sich, wenn jener erstarrt, sieht, wenn jener erblindet, lebt, wenn jener gestorben ist.

German · Hermann Diels · Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906)
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Original-text edition
Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (Berlin: Weidmann, 1906), p. 226; historical running original-language text, excluding the critical apparatus.
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Notes & source

Existing human translation retained verbatim; historical original-language passage covers the same translated quotation.

Latin fragment agrees with historical 1906 quotation.

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (Berlin: Weidmann, 1906), p. 226; historical running original-language text, excluding the critical apparatus. View original source ↗

Additional original-language witness

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (Berlin: Weidmann, 1906), p. 226; historical running original-language text, excluding the critical apparatus.

Existing human translation retained verbatim; historical original-language passage covers the same translated quotation.

Latin fragment agrees with historical 1906 quotation.

H. Metapontinus ex eadem schola Pythagorae praemissis pro statu sententiae suae insolubilibus argumentis de anima sic pronuntiat ‘ longe aliud anima , aliud corpus est , quae corpore et torpente viget et caeco videt et mortuo vivit ‘.

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Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

German wording transcribed and checked against the printed 1906 edition, p. 226; line-end hyphenation and page breaks are joined. The matching original identifies the portion translated. The longer source witness is retained separately when the quotation is an excerpt

Only the Latin quotation is translated. Diels prints it among spurious fragments

German · Hermann Diels · Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906) Published translation ↗

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Available translations & credits
  • German · Hermann Diels. Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906). Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Translation: Public domain

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

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