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Thales

DK 11

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Available translations: German

ΝΑΥΤΙΚΗ ΑΣΤΡΟΛΟΓΙΑ.

SCHIFFERSTERNKUNDE.

German · Hermann Diels · Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906)
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Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (1906), pp. 11; historical ancient running text.
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All existing modern-language translation text is preserved. The same quoted ancient passage remains paired.

The paired ancient words were checked directly against the historical 1906 scan. Current translation wording is unchanged; abbreviation expansion, punctuation and iota-adscript/subscript are normalized.

Additional source context is not reproduced here because its complete text has not been checked against the cited historical edition. The paired ancient text and historical translation are retained.

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (1906), pp. 11; historical ancient running text. View original source ↗

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German wording transcribed and checked against the printed 1906 edition, p. 11; line-end hyphenation and page breaks are joined. The matching original identifies the portion translated. Consult the cited edition for surrounding source context

This is the German rendering of the work title only. The ancient reports concerning authorship are outside its scope

German · Hermann Diels · Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906) Published translation ↗

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Available translations & credits
  • German · Hermann Diels. Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906). Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Translation: Public domain

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

Available translations: German

τὰ μὲν οὖν πολυθρύλητα τέτταρα, ὧν τὸ πρῶτον ὕδωρ εἶναι φαμεν καὶ ὡσανεὶ μόνον στοιχεῖον τίθεμεν, πρὸς σύγκρισίν τε καὶ πήγνυσιν καὶ σύστασιν τῶν ἐγκοσμίων πρὸς ἄλληλα συγκεράννυται. πῶς δέ, ἤδη λέλεκται ἡμῖν ἐν τῶι πρώτωι.

Die vielberedeten vier Prinzipien, deren erstes wir Wasser nennen und zum gewissermaßen einzigen Elemente machen, werden zur Vereinigung und Gerinnung und Verbindung der irdischen Dinge miteinander zusammengemischt. Wie aber, haben wir bereits in dem ersten Buch dargelegt.

German · Hermann Diels · Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906)
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A source citation has not yet been identified for this reading.

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Original-text edition
Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (1906), pp. 11; historical ancient running text.
Open the historical edition ↗

Notes & source

All existing modern-language translation text is preserved. The same quoted ancient passage remains paired.

The paired ancient words were checked directly against the historical 1906 scan. Current translation wording is unchanged; abbreviation expansion, punctuation and iota-adscript/subscript are normalized.

Additional source context is not reproduced here because its complete text has not been checked against the cited historical edition. The paired ancient text and historical translation are retained.

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (1906), pp. 11; historical ancient running text. View original source ↗

Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

German wording transcribed and checked against the printed 1906 edition, p. 11; line-end hyphenation and page breaks are joined. The matching original identifies the portion translated. Consult the cited edition for surrounding source context

The 1906 edition numbers this Thales B2; identification with modern DK11 B3 is by the Galen quotation, not by the older number. Diels places it among alleged fragments and calls it a late forgery. The introductory Galen carrier is outside this translation

German · Hermann Diels · Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906) Published translation ↗

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Available translations & credits
  • German · Hermann Diels. Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906). Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Translation: Public domain

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

Available translations: English · German

κατά τινας δὲ μόνα δύο συνέγραψε Περὶ τροπῆς καὶ Ἰσημερίας, τὰ ἄλλ’ ἀκατάληπτα εἶναι δοκιμάσας.

But according to others he wrote nothing but two treatises, one On the Solstice and one On the Equinox, regarding all other matters as incognizable.

R. D. Hicks · Diogenes Laertius: Lives of Eminent Philosophers, vol. I, Loeb Classical Library (1925), I.23
How this fragment survives

A source citation has not yet been identified for this reading.

A source citation has not yet been identified for this reading in the reviewed records. The linked edition remains available below.

Original-text edition
Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (1906), pp. 11; historical ancient running text.
Open the historical edition ↗

Notes & source

Complete notice on the two works attributed to Thales, including his judgement about the other subjects

All existing modern-language translation text is preserved. The same quoted ancient passage remains paired.

The paired ancient words were checked directly against the historical 1906 scan. Current translation wording is unchanged; abbreviation expansion, punctuation and iota-adscript/subscript are normalized.

Additional source context is not reproduced here because its complete text has not been checked against the cited historical edition. The paired ancient text and historical translation are retained.

Hermann Diels, Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2nd edition, volume I (1906), pp. 11; historical ancient running text. View original source ↗

English: R. D. Hicks · Diogenes Laertius: Lives of Eminent Philosophers, vol. I, Loeb Classical Library (1925), I.23 Published translation ↗

Source pages: 1

Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

Available translations & credits
  • English · R. D. Hicks. Diogenes Laertius: Lives of Eminent Philosophers, vol. I, Loeb Classical Library (1925), I.23. Default reading. Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Source pages: 1

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

  • German · Hermann Diels. Die Fragmente der Vorsokratiker, 2. Auflage, Band I (1906). Published translation ↗ Paired original ↗

    Translation: Public domain

    Original edition: Historical original edition: public domain under the recorded term review.

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